True,
A) Cant even get Betfair Sportsbook down here in little ole New Zealand.
B) have repeatedly tried the “Surebets” subscription before with very little joy in getting the lines at the stated lines, 99% either changed or gone by the time the alert hits here.
C) To have this forced upon me is somewhat rough, as if i had a freedom of choice i would let the offer slide. alas it is what what is
yeah its disgusting to be honest. eats so much in to an profits
Hanna, you need to just admit that your customers are not happy with your new ridiculous price structure. The idea is for your customers to be able to generate quality profits, your pricing eats in to those profits massively. that is not ok
Im in Australia and there s on 3/4 bookmakers to choose from using Rebelbetting. So many of the bigger Australian bookmakers are missing. I am still forced to pay for a product (sure betting) when that part of the platform is completely useless to me. the price first up was already too much. its now ridiculous!
I don’t think Hanna it’s the decision maker here, Simon is who you need to talk to.
And most of the people will go with the competition, they just forced people to leave this place and to go with other option…we all know we have more options.
A small number of our members have expressed disapproval of the recent price change, and we hear you. We know that if you’re not making money - we’re not making money.
That said, we have an affordable Starter plan for a reason. If you have a hard time making a profit with the Pro version, you should use Starter.
Secondly, the merging of the two products has little to do with the price increase. There have been 14 months of improvements, new releases, at least 10 new bookmakers, and many new features.
Our team has grown with two more developers so we can push out even more improvements and new bookmakers faster. We’ve made some significant investments that you will see the benefits of during 2023.
RebelBetting is also the only service that is completely transparent with the member results (and we encourage it here in the Community). I wouldn’t recommend anyone to invest in a service that cannot even tell me the last month’s results.
The average yield during 2022 has improved from 2.4% to 3.54%, a remarkable 50% increase in member profits. Some of this is due to hard work improving our engine and analyzing and removing unprofitable market combinations.
Our business has the benefit of knowing exactly how much value our service brings to our customers. And while a small percentage are struggling some months, right now the average profits are almost exactly four times larger than the cost. Per month.
Why not unlock the 7% value bets and the nr of bets for the starter subscription?
Excatly…Trademate Core has similar price to RB starter, but much better product without limits. And BB has even better value for money having Smarkets, BetinAsia, Sportmarket etc with a fraction of cost against RB Pro. Both of them having more bookmakers than RB. RB team has head in clouds thinking their product is superior when in fact it struggles against others. In the end customers will decide with their feet.
you have unlimited nr of bets with starter, is just that you are limited to 7% value bets. Pro will give you more bets by definition because you are not limited to only 7% max value bets.
But it’s still too much 90£ ( nearly 100£ ) a month for the starter plan, I am using a different software now where i am not limited and the price is fair for what i get.
We will see how small the numbers are at the end of April when many will leave.
To say the Sure bets is little to do with the price increase makes it even worse!!
You could just about get away with it saying it is part of it but now you have said the price hike is because you need to bring in 2 new faces to bring more bookmakers onboard when they should already be on board is ridiculous.
I will be cancelling end of the 3 months,
A very poor reply and you say you hear us, truth is you are clueless.
Good luck, but i am out of here at the end of the “cheap” price.
I would suspect i wont be the only one
Oh they mean it like that. Ofc you get more bets with 7+% unlocked xd
If they unlock it for starter, itd be a fairer price imo.
i will never pay 90£ a month for the starter if i will be limited.
I have said it before and I will repeat it. I would prefer that there wasn’t any price increase.
The explanation from Simon about the reasons behind it is much better justification than the “merging of products” that some members have been stuck on. How can you expect all “new faces” to be onboard from the “beginning” for more bookmakers? Are the bookmakers and their odds-providers, websites and APIs static? How is that supposed to work?
IMHO, if RB, with new developers, can bring the yield up it is easily worth it. Sure I am in a privileged position since I have an ROI of over 1200% and will put priority on the quality of the displayed +EV bets as a main factor for my subscription.
It is not a matter of comparing odds of softs with Pinnacle, find the discrepancy and think that equals a reliable edge. Just look at the thread " Minus after 1300 bets with custom value detector.
If existing providers improve, or a new provider of +EV bets comes along, with good value of +EV bets then I will certainly re-evaluate my position. It is a free market, after all, and everyone have different expectations, preferences, priorities and possibilities.
Good betting to everyone.
Hi @totrashbin01 , there is absolutely no reason under the sun to justify 200£a month for this service, you can give me aaall your statistics and aaall you numbers and aaall your best arguments and aaall your ROI / CLV / PROFIT INCREASE / YELD ETC and aaall your team that you have to pay and tell me that i will triple my money in 30days and i will still not pay 200£/month EVER.
You know it’s too much, but you are just denying the truth.
Please do not try to explain to me what I know.
Since you wrote that even “aaall my best arguments” will not change your mind it is pointless to continue this discussion. You have shared your opinion, and that is great, but now you are not adding anything useful.
Well thats not very good is it. Only 66.9% are in profit and if you take 219eur subscription cost into consideration then i’m sure this % is less then 50%. So you put something like 50-150h of work each month in it and after that there is 50/50 change you are in profit. And that profit might only be in single or double digits.
Thanks for that thorough analysis! 
On any given month during 2022:
Also please see my posts above again:
Right now the average profits are almost exactly four times larger than the cost. Per month.
Remember, there’s no one forcing you to subscribe to the Pro version. You need a decent bankroll to make the most of it.
Your reply says everything about this company i am afraid!
To reply in your manner is so unprofessional.
You have made my mind up and i will not be renewing when the price goes up.
Think about your customers and don’t treat us like mugs.
Bye!
Sorry about that, I just found raidom’s calculations funny, since they could be disproven just by checking the real numbers a few posts above.
You’re welcome back later. Hopefully we can improve to reach your expectations.
and that is not a real number right? Your own quote. Strange.
Anyway we will see what future brings. I think people have seen the real numbers, calculations, attitudes, point of views and have expressed their opinions about RB, its price and comparisons against competitors. In few months the reality will kick in when peoples subsciptions will end. Personally i think the price increase will not compensate the number of people leaving the platform and RB team will be hit with hard reality. I truely hope i’m wrong beacause i have 2 year subsciption already paid and i hope team will make right choices and will get through it. We all make mistakes, but noone wants to admit them, myself included, so i think team will not listen to people and their suggestions, even if it will hurt their business, but thats life as we know it. I hope everybody that stays will be making profit and to those who leave in dissapointment i suggest to try different other competitors out and make your own choices. Nothing beats trial and error.