Has the price gone up?

I am restricted on every account, how can i increase stakes? I just checked, i have made 5486eur profit in 45months i’ve been using rebel. That makes 122eur profit per month. So basicly with current price not making it even. All the profit would go to you and more.

They should just charge a percentage of the profit imo

With a starting bankroll of €5k, and reaching the average profit of our members, you would make €1200 profit per month. It’s of course up to you if you think that €1020 profit per month (subscription fee deducted) is worth it and €980 per month is not :wink:

Subtracting our old prices turns out to an hourly profit of €153.
Subtracting our new prices turns out to an hourly profit of €147.

We get it guys, no one wants to pay a higher subscription fee. However, if the size of your bankroll is not justified for the Pro version, then we recommend using Starter.

I don’t think you do get it to be honest, it is not the bankroll, it is the increase compared to the product and its value.

To be honest, your last comment seemed a little bit like you were taking the P out of us!
Not a good thing to do!

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averages are a beautiful lie. There maybe a customer who is able to multiaccount and make 10000eur profit per month, and there are others like us who make 200eur profit per month. Lets say there are 9 of those people. Average of those 10 people are 1180eur profit per month. All sweet and beautiful average, but in fact 9 out of 10 people are not even braking even. That is the hard truth. As i said, i have been using rebel for 45months and my average profit per month is 122eur. You are painting a statistical beautiful lie to customers. Give us a median profit per customer, then we can talk further.

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Stop talking sense, that is forbidden on here lol

You could not be more correct if you tried!

Sure, the median monthly profit of our value betting Pro member is 728 EUR.
For Starter the median is 417 EUR.

“With a starting bankroll of €5k, and reaching the median profit of our members, you would make €728 profit per month. It’s of course up to you if you think that €548 profit per month (subscription fee deducted) is worth it and €508 per month is not :wink”

Made the statement a bit more realistic to customers now. Of course there will be again statistical questions. How many months average customer uses Rebel for instance. When you start out and you have all available bookmakers you can make 508eur profit, but after 2-3 months you get limited and can’t make those turnovers anymore and your profit falls. It may just be that people use Rebel for 3 months, make 508eur profit and get limited and quit beacause after that they won’t be able to make 220eur profit to brake even anymore. So what would i say is that 508eur median profit is possible but only for a customer in first few months until gubbing. If people look at it that way then yes maybe it is worth it for you to pay 220eur subsciption for 2-3 months. After that i’m sure statistics will say that your profit will go down significantly until you quit. And that quitting is not in Rebels statistics anymore.

I am in no way against Rebel team. I am long time customer. I just want people to see reality of valuebetting, the software and the price of it. I hope everybody makes positive decisions for them, the team and the customers and i wish everybody a good profit.

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I will go straight to the point.
Anyone who needs The Pro plan is already a lot in profits so they are probably limited everywhere and that is why they need Pro plan so they can place value bets/sure bets with sharps, there is no other option for this kind of people therefore it makes sense to pay 200£/ a month.
They only way I will be back with using this software is to enable over 7% value bets on the Starter pack. I mean, in my opinion is not a good deal for me to pay 90£ and to be limited to 7% value bets and if I want to go over that 7% mark I have to pay MORE THAN double while I am getting a service like sure bets that i don’t really need. I understand that you guys have to make money but you need to provide for us more to charge the 90£ a month. I’ve currently stopped using your products because of this problem, I don’t see this deal fair… especially in the long run.

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Ha-ha… I have not been able access my “old Surebetting” since April last year.
Memories…


Sorry about the small screenshot.
I made about 100€ in one week. Lovely to see all the blue markers that indicated that you made a profit on the bet.
Funny thing is that now, on a Monday evening in Sweden I can see plenty of surebets while there were no VBs.
I understand the grievances from members… I would of course have preferred that there was no price increase (even better with a price decrease). Right now I am going to see how I can combine the products.
No single product will suit everyone. Most members will have a three month “trial” period and I intend to use it to the fullest.
Maybe we will get some more members from the surebetting product to comment and participate in the forum?
Note that my screen does not show that by 16th of April I had switched from the Surebetting starter to the Value betting Pro. Few weeks into the VB journey I wondered what the f*** I had done… I was several 100€ in the red. I topped up the bankroll, got my profit guarantee month and three months later was limited on B365 with over 12k€ profit.
So yes, the price has gone up. I wish it hadn’t. It is not a product for everyone. If your bankroll is small go with the RB starter. Aim to use the promotional offers that happens twice a year to get a more affordable subscription and reduce the monthly cost.

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The issue is also that the first month, on a new account, you have to grow the bankroll organically. You can not just take the profit from the gubbed accounts and deposit into new accounts, unless you want to be limited within days. So the first month is kind of sloooow. Once the bankroll grows, the whole process accelerates exponentially, until the account gets gubbed and the process has to repeat. So there is quite a lot of clicking with the mouse and keypad going on to bring the account into that “sweet-spot” before the inevitable happens!

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No that’s not correct. The median is from all users, with all kinds of bankrolls, usually lower than €5k.

The median ROI % is perhaps more interesting, which you can see here.

Median profit in units is even better, I can check that later.

well ROI % assumes that everybody updates their bankroll all the time. I am pretty sure most of the users don’t update it regulary. Again i would argue that ROI % that is displayed is actually not correct. But hey, as they say…there is truth, there is lie and then there is statistics.

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True,

A) Cant even get Betfair Sportsbook down here in little ole New Zealand.

B) have repeatedly tried the “Surebets” subscription before with very little joy in getting the lines at the stated lines, 99% either changed or gone by the time the alert hits here.

C) To have this forced upon me is somewhat rough, as if i had a freedom of choice i would let the offer slide. alas it is what what is

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yeah its disgusting to be honest. eats so much in to an profits

Hanna, you need to just admit that your customers are not happy with your new ridiculous price structure. The idea is for your customers to be able to generate quality profits, your pricing eats in to those profits massively. that is not ok

Im in Australia and there s on 3/4 bookmakers to choose from using Rebelbetting. So many of the bigger Australian bookmakers are missing. I am still forced to pay for a product (sure betting) when that part of the platform is completely useless to me. the price first up was already too much. its now ridiculous!

I don’t think Hanna it’s the decision maker here, Simon is who you need to talk to.

And most of the people will go with the competition, they just forced people to leave this place and to go with other option…we all know we have more options.

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A small number of our members have expressed disapproval of the recent price change, and we hear you. We know that if you’re not making money - we’re not making money.

That said, we have an affordable Starter plan for a reason. If you have a hard time making a profit with the Pro version, you should use Starter.

Secondly, the merging of the two products has little to do with the price increase. There have been 14 months of improvements, new releases, at least 10 new bookmakers, and many new features.

Our team has grown with two more developers so we can push out even more improvements and new bookmakers faster. We’ve made some significant investments that you will see the benefits of during 2023.

RebelBetting is also the only service that is completely transparent with the member results (and we encourage it here in the Community). I wouldn’t recommend anyone to invest in a service that cannot even tell me the last month’s results.

The average yield during 2022 has improved from 2.4% to 3.54%, a remarkable 50% increase in member profits. Some of this is due to hard work improving our engine and analyzing and removing unprofitable market combinations.

Our business has the benefit of knowing exactly how much value our service brings to our customers. And while a small percentage are struggling some months, right now the average profits are almost exactly four times larger than the cost. Per month.

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Why not unlock the 7% value bets and the nr of bets for the starter subscription?

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